Comments on ICKY PEOPLE: Why the Media Hates Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich

My respect for Paul is falling as I read allegatio...

2008-01-19T03:25:00.000-06:00

My respect for Paul is falling as I read allegations about him being a creationist and racist. However, I've always favored Kucinich more than Paul anyway. And there isn't any dirt on Kucinich AT ALL. Ok he hasn't responded to a debate request (referring to the website posted by Zee)...um that's jack shit to the allegations other candidates are facing he's got bigger fish to fry and did I mention he's running for the friggin' presidency? He's got shit to do!!!! Kucinich is the real deal; I don't think he will win, but I'm still voting for him b/c I won't go for second-best. I'm not giving my vote to anyone else.

It is not about the media or the lobbyists, it is ...

2008-01-12T19:38:00.000-06:00

It is not about the media or the lobbyists, it is all about Israel and which candidate that can support Israel more and help Israel to further its Zionist agenda to enslave mankind. Please wake up people before it is too late. Stop getting all your information from the media, because with some research, you'll find out that is owned by the Zionists and their sympathizers.

May God have mercy on our souls.

Zee - You need to do some homework to realize that...

2007-12-31T02:16:00.000-06:00

Zee - You need to do some homework to realize that while Ron Paul is endorsed by White Supremacists, he doesn't endorse them or their ideology. Kucinich & Paul are the best political hopes for America, and it doesn't look like the mainstream Democrats will pickup on this.
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You and all the Kucinich-Paul nutcases need to do your OWN homework. Did you read my well -sourced link to Ron Paul's LONG TIME racist rants? Thought not.

And it's even more no wonder that fat Americans WE...

2007-12-15T06:12:00.000-06:00

And it's even more no wonder that fat Americans WENT ALONG WITH IT over the last TWO-THREE DECADES.

They ridiculed and poured contempt onto anyone who spoke out, calling them whack left extremists.

I can't say that you Americans didn't deserve it. You deserve every penny of this corruption. That is what greed, ignorance and gluttony gets you.

excellent post. The truth is not profitable.

2007-11-25T09:11:00.000-06:00

excellent post. The truth is not profitable.

you're questions about these particular politician...

2007-11-25T03:07:00.000-06:00

you're questions about these particular politicians would be more effective if you didn't reveal who said what right after noting the particular quote.
listen... they're still saying the same things any politician would say. Ron Paul is still a phoney. he opposes gay marriage (what 'libertarian candidate' would do that??) and Denis Kucinich is still a pussy.
When will we find a candidate who is actually intelligent enough, in his or her own right, as opposed to some idiot who needs to sink down to the lowest common denominator (which, especially in 'America,' can be pretty fucking low), to be a decent human being?
I guess [i know it is too fucking late and too fucking low to expect anything worth while.]

Zee wrote that Dennis Kucinich is a "media whore"?...

2007-11-24T13:41:00.000-06:00

Zee wrote that Dennis Kucinich is a "media whore"? Please. If he has to wave his arms and use what would be seen as drama and grandstanding to get attention, so be it! Everything he has done to draw attention to the true issues extant in this nation has been marginalized by the MSM propaganda machine to make him look bad, so more power to him! Rosemary Palmer is doing the same by exploiting her Gold Star Mother "status" and what else? That Kucinich is ignoring her? If I supported the monstrous bill D.K. voted against on the Enhanced Patriot Act, I'd ignore her too!
Kucinich consistently votes for the rights and well-being of the constituency...what has Palmer done except piss and moan that Dennis isn't paying attention to HER? Who's really the "media whore"? Check the voting records of both and tell me what you think, if that's what you call it. Seems like you picked a convenient and emotional peg on which to hang your hat.
You come across as another Repugnantlan Troll Against Truth with your Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich rants and ostensibly offer proof with propaganda links to bolster your dubious arguments. As stated before, you need to do more homework on other than "talking point" Web sites to make your ill- defined case.

Hello thirdeyeetc! Thanks for responding to littl...

2007-11-24T10:40:00.000-06:00

Hello thirdeyeetc! Thanks for responding to little ole’ me. Even though the internet is bursting with posters and a million messages, everyone seems to be self-absorbed enough not to talk to others. It’s a million monologues.

Ha!

Please allow me to answer your response to my message. I figure you won’t like my answers, but they represent the truth as I know it, and at least we can talk, right?

You said, “we sort of invaded this land to begin with, killed the Indians that used to be here, and set up shop.”

Yes, might makes right. The world is a jungle. The strong survive and the weak ones fade. I’m not saying that is my policy. I’m saying it’s the way of the world.

“ I could also mention that one of the main reasons Mexicans come here is because NAFTA has totally fucked up their economy, and that corporations are dependent on their black market labor.”

When Al Gore debated Ross Perot on the CNN Larry King Show, Perot stated, “If NAFTA passes you’ll hear a flushing sound of millions of American jobs going south.” He was right. NAFTA has contributed greatly to the decline of the American middle class. Chinese people get paid 11 cents an hour to stock Wal Mart and others with cheap goods. Corporations could be pressured to rebuild the American middle class if Ron Paul can set us up on the gold and silver standard again and if the labor unions are allowed to gain strength again.

”Another great way to stop all that immigration, if it really bothers you so much, you racist fuck.”

I am racist and you are too. I have yet to meet even one individual who loves another race more than their own. This is bottom line human mentality. Why deny it?

“Start prosecuting the white guys who own the corporations that give them jobs and end bogus "free trade" agreements, and help make their own nation self-sufficient.”

I believe I have a better idea. Revoke the North American Union directive Bush signed in 2004, reestablish the traditional United State of America borders, and cancel all American social services at the federal, state, and local levels for nonAmerican citizens.

The “white guys who own the corporations” affected a coup de taut in the USA by murdering President Kennedy. Since then they have been untouchable, they are pulling the strings at every level, and in fact have bankrupted the USA with their global war and genocide. Do you think Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich can defeat THEM?

”I laugh in the face of such xenophobia coming from the ancestor of genocidal colonists from Europe that built a nation on the back of slave labor.”

OK, but what’s happening is no laughing matter. Our country and the world is turning to a form of totalitarian fascism that plans to enslave 5 of the 6 billion people, you and me included.

You talk as though you have only recently discovered the historical events you mention. In time you will season with age and gradually see the larger picture.

Nice talking with you.

Great article! One slip up is placing Fox news in ...

2007-11-24T09:40:00.000-06:00

Great article!

One slip up is placing Fox news in the same category as CBS, NBC, ABC ie.'main stream media'.

A rare Fox slant is hardly comparable to reckless and relentless main stream propaganda.

I'd also like to say that Ron Paul and Kucinich ru...

2007-11-23T16:19:00.000-06:00

I'd also like to say that Ron Paul and Kucinich running together seems comical. Ron Paul would do away with all environmental regulation. Basically if you wanted to buy a slave from Wal-Mart that'd be none of his business.

He also is pro-life and seems to not think much of the devision between church and state.

About the only thing they have in common is their anti-war anti-patriot act stance.

Do you really want a world where Corporations can do whatever the fuck they want without any oversight whatsoever, even if it means trampling on the rights of individuals and communities? Then vote for Ron Paul!

Don't forget there's a little something called third parties too.

Rebel against the two party system and vote Green, Libertarian or the like. A vote for one of the two major corporate sponsored parties is the only sure way to waste a vote.

"But if you are white, which I am, what's wrong wi...

2007-11-23T16:12:00.000-06:00

"But if you are white, which I am, what's wrong with promoting your race? Ever hear of "La Raza?" The Mexicans yell loud and proud, "Everything for the race."

I am beyond self loathing because I am white.

White power seems like a great way to counter the illegal invasion of 14 million dumb, uneducated, dirt poor Mexicans and Latinos."

Wow. How to respond. Well I could start by saying that we sort of invaded this land to begin with, killed the Indians that used to be here, and set up shop. I could also mention that one of the main reasons Mexicans come here is because NAFTA has totally fucked up their economy, and that corporations are dependent on their black market labor.

Another great way to stop all that immigration, if it really bothers you so much, you racist fuck. Start prosecuting the white guys who own the corporations that give them jobs and end bogus "free trade" agreements, and help make their own nation self-sufficient.

I laugh in the face of such xenophobia coming from the ancestor of genocidal colonists from Europe that built a nation on the back of slave labor.

No point to repeat what I've said more eloquently elsewhere, so I'll post a link:

The Melting Pot Calling the Kettle Black

It's a shame such truth in this Blog is being corr...

2007-11-23T13:45:00.000-06:00

It's a shame such truth in this Blog is being corrupted by the likes of folks like Zee. Thank you for your factual account of politics and the MSM today.

massive one day donation for ron paul, too. on dec...

2007-11-22T07:53:00.000-06:00

massive one day donation for ron paul, too. on december 16th, the anniversary of the boston tea party. contribute to the campaign to stop overtaxing! teaparty07.com

also check out firstchurchofatheism.com - it's quite interesting

When candidates are looked at solely for issues, K...

2007-11-21T15:25:00.000-06:00

When candidates are looked at solely for issues, Kucinich is very often the choice of Dems, Liberals, Progressives or any name you want to give us as well as a fair amount of independents and even republicans.

Zee - You need to do some homework to realize that...

2007-11-21T14:01:00.000-06:00

Zee - You need to do some homework to realize that while Ron Paul is endorsed by White Supremacists, he doesn't endorse them or their ideology. Kucinich & Paul are the best political hopes for America, and it doesn't look like the mainstream Democrats will pickup on this.

Bottom line: Check your sources next time before you start throwing mud. Here's a place to start looking Captain Clueless:

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=41822

But if you are white, which I am, what's wrong wit...

2007-11-21T09:59:00.000-06:00

But if you are white, which I am, what's wrong with promoting your race? Ever hear of "La Raza?" The Mexicans yell loud and proud, "Everything for the race."

I am beyond self loathing because I am white.

White power seems like a great way to counter the illegal invasion of 14 million dumb, uneducated, dirt poor Mexicans and Latinos.

To the person who wrote: 2.2 Billion is less th...

2007-11-20T16:51:00.000-06:00

To the person who wrote:
2.2 Billion is less than 1.4% of GE's annual revenues - it's not like US DoD business makes or breaks them. GE would also benefit more from policies that Bush will never endorse than it will from the war. A strong push for alternative energy would be worth more to GE than anything they can sell to the war effort, as they're one of the biggest players in nuclear, wind, and solar power generation.

Ever heard of Capitalism? This is where people capitalize on the need for economic goods and services as long as possible before serious innovation is implemented. GE will eventually play that hand, but not until the microchip is in your child's skull. So, I will not be voting for the skull and bones this primary thank you very much.

"One big massive blowout drive for Ron Paul on the...

2007-11-20T16:26:00.000-06:00

"One big massive blowout drive for Ron Paul on the 16th of December, anniversary of the Boston Tea Party"

Yes, you too, can join the White Power people in supporting their favorite candidate! Morons.

Oh, and for the entire low-down on the White Supre...

2007-11-20T16:24:00.000-06:00

Oh, and for the entire low-down on the White Supremacist Ron Paul, here's an expose from kos:

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2007/5/15/124912/740

For the hypocrisy of media whore Kucinich (whom the media is soft-balling for sure) go to Rosemary Palmer's site http://www.rosemarypalmerforcongress.com/
and see how the anti-democracy hypocrite Kucinich has let the Gold Star mom running against him languish for 3 months without an answer to her request for a debate while he prances around like a fool on the Colbert Report.

Rose, stop trying to talk sense to a bunch of luna...

2007-11-20T16:15:00.000-06:00

Rose, stop trying to talk sense to a bunch of lunatic morons. I mean, how bonehead stupid do you have to be to post such a shallow topic, not to mention to actually promote a Kucinich-Paul ticket...although the goose-step nonthinkers all belong together with such a ticket. And to think Buzzflash is front-paging this crap. Mark Karlin needs to beg $100 k from cult Constitutionalist gun nuts who would support racist Ron Paul...no thinking person would support the demise of his once important website.

Forget about Kucinich and Ron Paul, what about Joh...

2007-11-20T14:00:00.000-06:00

Forget about Kucinich and Ron Paul, what about John Edwards? He's not as radical as Kucinich, but he is passionate about getting rid of lobbyists, getting the money out of politics, and putting the power back into the hands of the people. He's more electable than Hillary or Obama too...

gepxbI initially supported Ron Paul, but after fin...

2007-11-20T02:02:00.000-06:00

gepxbI initially supported Ron Paul, but after finding out about his anti-abortion and anti-gay marriage stances (kind of odd for a Libertarian) have decided to support Dennis Kucinich instead. Kucinich isn't perfect (he would like to ban handguns in the U.S.), but I doubt that type of legislation would get very far. However, I can easily see social conservative rallying around Paul and allowing individual States to ban abortions.

"Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. A must re...

2007-11-19T22:23:00.000-06:00

"Manufacturing Consent" by Noam Chomsky. A must read.

Don't be fooled. Give your money to Ron Paul. Ther...

2007-11-19T14:22:00.000-06:00

Don't be fooled. Give your money to Ron Paul. There is no way Dennis has a chance against Hitlery or Obama. Ron Paul on the other hand is the only Republican candidate who can beat them. Besides, Kucinich's voting record doesn't stand up to Ron's. Dennis also consistently supports legislation which threatens our Second Amendment.

http://teaparty07.com/

Isn't it weird that the most moderate and fundamen...

2007-11-19T12:11:00.000-06:00

Isn't it weird that the most moderate and fundamentally democratic (not the party) candidates are going to be shunned by their lack of cooperation with corporate interests? Americans outnumber corporations, we should follow France's recent example and shut down the nation's economy.